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I've hit a nerve!! The truth hurts Firebird.
I REPEAT-- Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was an innocent Virgin who's ancestry can be traced back to Adam and Eve. In Eden, WE ALL were cursed by their sin-- even Mary.
Which makes her a sinner who needed a Savior -- like me, you and millions of people who came after Adam and Eve. Mary knew and believed in her Son as the Messiah-- which means that her sins were forgiven and she resides in Heaven with the other people who have died but are believers. If you continue to believe the fallacy of her being born sinless- go ahead. It is a MANMADE belief given to you by your religious fore-fathers.
Jesus is the ONLY person we pray to, confess to and who will forgive our sins. Because of him and his sacrifice on the cross- WE ALL have the opportunity to accept his gift of Salvation. Read your Bible- don't take the word from Man.
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I read post #173 of Sally's. I find MANY UNTRUE statements here. MANY of them. Sally, for your own sake, I'd suggest you do more research before you post this kind of lie. Becuase it is a lie. Although some of your statements (or those you cop'd from someone's writings-ergo standing by them) have some credibillity, Some accusations about Catholics and Catholicism is bogus and wrong. Hate to break it to you, sister, although I have always admired your evangelical empassionment, you're post here is full of crap that takes away from the spirit that you care. I'll be happy to post the conflicting statements this afternoon/evening. Right now I'm headding to the laundromat to get my down done. What a way to spend your final day off: Pennsyltucky rednecks, Dusty Taxidermy "ART" and Ciggarrette Smoke! Thank heavens I have the 1997 back issues of Redbook and Good Housekeeping to keep me sane.. . "I am one of those unhappy persons who inspire bores to the greatest flights of art. "
Edith Sitwell
"Inka-Dinka-Du" -Jimmy Durante
Contemplating manifestations hidden in buried wounds. Bleed forth bringing old pains to new light Every step is cleansing, renewing and growing In the inertia of cycles, new inspiration flows like Wisdom's kiss.
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Nic - I will confess, I did not write those words in that post- I found that article on the internet. Accept for some words, I would not have used- the article is truthful. I really would like you to show me those errors. Then when you're done, I'd like you to review Firebirds posts to us-- how she does not answer questions, rebuts even facts, bible verses and when we TRY to answer her way, she still keeps it up and calls us out on them.
I have tried but now I'm showing her errors instead. As you say: what good for the goose is good for the gander. May Christ work it out somehow!!
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"We believe that the Baptists are the original Christians. We did not commence our existence at the reformation, we were reformers before Luther and Calvin were born; we never came from the Church of Rome, for we were never in it, but we have an unbroken line up to the apostles themselves. We have always existed from the days of Christ, and our principles, sometimes veiled and forgotten, like a river which may travel under ground for a little season, have always had honest and holy adherents. Persecuted alike by Romanists and Protestants of almost every sect, yet there has never existed a Government holding Baptist principles which persecuted others; nor, I believe, any body of Baptists ever held it to be right to put the consciences of others under the control of man. We have ever been ready to suffer, as our martyrologies will prove, but we are not ready to accept any help from the State, to prostitute the purity of the Bride of Christ to any alliance with Government, and we will never make the Church, although the Queen, the despot over the consciences of men.
—Charles H. Spurgeon
Christian history, in the First Century, was strictly and properly Baptist history, although the word "Baptist," as a distinctive appellation was not then known. How could it be? How was it possible to call any Christians Baptist Christians, when all were Baptists?" William Cathcart, The Baptist Encyclopedia, 1881, p. 286."
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I am a presbyterian and my Father was an ordained Baptist minister and my ancesters were from Litchenstien.I do not know what religion they were and they came to the Jamestown colony for religious freedom in the early 17th century.I have never had any interest in the catholic religion so i doubt if we came from them.
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John 8:31-32
..."If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed... And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Hebrews 4:12
... the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Col 3:16-17
Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.
Psalms 119, verses 11-12,15-16
Your word I have hidden in my heart, that I might not sin against You! Blessed are You, O LORD! Teach me Your statutes! I will meditate on Your precepts, and contemplate Your ways. I will delight myself in Your statutes; I will not forget Your word.
Sola Scriptura
by A.A. Hodge (1823-1886)
Our historic Reformed Confessions on Sola Scriptura:
1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith
Chapter 1: Of the Holy Scriptures
1. The Holy Scripture is the only sufficient, certain, and infallible1 rule of all saving knowledge, faith, and obedience, although the 2light of nature, and the works of creation and providence do so far manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of God, as to leave men inexcusable; yet are they not sufficient to give that knowledge of God and his will which is necessary unto salvation.3 Therefore it pleased the Lord at sundry times and in divers manners to reveal himself, and to declare that his will unto his church; and afterward for the better preserving and propagating of the truth, and for the more sure establishment and comfort of the church against the corruption of the flesh, and the malice of Satan, and of the world, to commit the same wholly unto4 writing; which maketh the Holy Scriptures to be most necessary, those former ways of God's revealing his will unto his people being now ceased.
12 Timothy 3:15-17; Isaiah 8:20; Luke 16:29, 31; Ephesians 2:20; 2Romans 1:19-21; Romans 2:14,15; Psalms 19:1-3; 3Hebrews 1:1; 4Proverbs 22:19-21; Romans 15:4; 2 Peter 1:19,20
2. Under the name of Holy Scripture, or the Word of God written, are now contained all the books of the Old and New Testaments, which are these,
Of the Old Testament.
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, I Samuel, II Samuel, I Kings, II Kings, I Chronicles, II Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, The Song of Solomen, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations,Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi
Of the New Testament.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, The Acts of the Apostles, Paul's Epistle to the Romans, I Corinthians, II Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, I Thessalonians, II Thessalonians, I Timothy, II Timothy, To Titus, To Philemon, The Epistle to the Hebrews, Epistle of James, The first and second Epistles of Peter, The first, second, and third Epistles of John, The Epistle of Jude, The Revelation. All of which are given by the5 inspiration of God, to be the rule of faith and life.
52 Timothy 3:16
3. The books commonly called Apocrypha, not being of6 divine inspiration, are no part of the canon (or rule) of the Scripture, and, therefore, are of no authority to the church of God, nor to be any otherwise approved or made use of than other human writings.
6Luke 24:27, 44; Romans 3:2
4. The authority of the Holy Scripture, for which it ought to be believed, dependeth not upon the testimony of any man or church, but wholly upon7 God who is truth itself, the author thereof; therefore it is to be received because it is the Word of God.
72 Peter 1:19-21; 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 John 5:9
5. We may be moved and induced by the testimony of the church of God to an high and reverent esteem of the Holy Scriptures; and the heavenliness of the matter, the efficacy of the doctrine, and the majesty of the style, the consent of all the parts, the scope of the whole which is to give all glory to God, the full discovery it makes of the only way of man's salvation, and many other incomparable excellencies, and entire perfections thereof, are arguments whereby it doth abundantly evidence itself to be the Word of God; yet not withstanding, our8 full persuasion and assurance of the infallible truth, and divine authority thereof, is from the inward work of the Holy Spirit bearing witness by and with the Word in our hearts.
8 John 16:13,14; 1 Corinthians 2:10-12; 1 John 2:20, 27
6. The whole counsel of God concerning all things9 necessary for his own glory, man's salvation, faith and life, is either expressly set down or necessarily contained in the Holy Scripture; unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelation of the Spirit, or traditions of men.
Nevertheless, we acknowledge the11 inward illumination of the Spirit of God to be necessary for the saving understanding of such things as are revealed in the Word, and that there are some circumstances concerning the worship of God, and government of the church, common to human actions and societies, which are to be12 ordered by the light of nature and Christian prudence, according to the general rules of the Word, which are always to be observed.
92 Timothy 3:15-17; Galatians 1:8,9; 11John 6:45; 1 Corinthians 2:9-12; 121 Corinthians 11:13, 14; 1 Corinthians 14:26,40
7. All things in Scripture are not alike13 plain in themselves, nor alike clear unto all; yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed and observed for salvation, are so14 clearly propounded and opened in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the learned, but the unlearned, in a due use of ordinary means, may attain to a sufficient understanding of them.
132 Peter 3:16; 14Psalms 19:7; Psalms 119:130
8. The Old Testament in15 Hebrew which was the native language of the people of God of old, and the New Testament in Greek which at the time of the writing of it was most generally known to the nations, being immediately inspired by God, and by his singular care and providence kept pure in all ages, are therefore16 authentic; so as in all controversies of religion, the church is finally to appeal to them17. But because these original tongues are not known to all the people of God, who have a right unto, and interest in the Scriptures, and are commanded in the fear of God to read18 and search them, therefore they are to be translated into the vulgar language of every nation unto which they19 come, that the Word of God dwelling20 plentifully in all, they may worship him in an acceptable manner, and through patience and comfort of the Scriptures may have hope.
15Romans 3:2; 16Isaiah 8:20; 17Acts 15:15; 18John 5:39; 191 Corinthians 14:6, 9, 11, 12, 24, 28; 20Colossians 3:16
9. The infallible rule of interpretation of Scripture is the21 Scripture itself; and therefore when there is a question about the true and full sense of any Scripture which is not manifold, but one, it must be searched by other places that speak more clearly.
212 Peter 1:20, 21; Acts 15:15, 16
10. The supreme judge, by which all controversies of religion are to be determined, and all decrees of councils, opinions of ancient writers, doctrines of men, and private spirits, are to be examined, and in whose sentence we are to rest, can be no other but the Holy Scripture delivered by the Spirit, into which24 Scripture so delivered, our faith is finally resolved.
21Matthew 22:29, 31, 32; Ephesians 2:20; Acts 28:23
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Christian history, in the First Century, was strictly and properly Baptist history, although the word "Baptist," as a distinctive appellation was not then known. How could it be? How was it possible to call any Christians Baptist Christians, when all were Baptists?" William Cathcart, The Baptist Encyclopedia, 1881, p. 286."
What this statement might mean depends on how one defines "Baptist". To be sure the sprinkling of infants was an innovation I suspect was unknown very early in the history of the church. Do you mean something other than this?
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M I only mentioned the Jews for Jesus as a source to find out information about that radical group. They are not protestant believers but Jewish believers in the Messiah. I still say that unless you can document your accusations against the UMC or any other Christian org. all that you say is nothing but inuendo. you yourself claim that it is being done secretly. How secret can it be if you know about it and where do you get your information.? dajcat
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remember M that unless you know of this first hand and it is not something you have just heard about you are guilty of the sin of Gossip as much as if it were you next door neighbor. dajcat
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remember M that unless you know of this first hand and it is not something you have just heard about you are guilty of the sin of Gossip as much as if it were you next door neighbor. dajcat
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M. I did not double post the above statement. This is one of the quirks of this new cn format. I do post the following link regarding Hillary Clinton and the UMC it is too long an article to post it in its entirety . I am not pro abortion neither am I anti abortion. I do not think that I have a right to force my views and opinions on someone else any more than I can force any one to accept Christ. I object to using abortion as another form of contraceptives but at the same time I think the RCC or any group is dead wrong in forcing a 13 or 14 year old girl to carry to full term a baby who was conceived by force .Espescially when it was by a member of her own household. She is under enough trauma from the initial experience itself. To subject her body to the strain of 9 months without really knowing what is going on or why i think is cruel if not life threatening at least in the terms of life long physcological affects. Education on all fronts is a better alternative to pregnancy or abortion than the forced beliefs of any organization regardless of how noble their goal may be. Unfortunattly today the secular world has permeated the idea that "if it feels good do it". It is not something new , we all went through that stage in our life but today it is acceptable. The medias bombard young people and married couples also that there is nothing wrong with the occasional fling . Now I see they have developed a viagra for women. Is it any different than what they called "Spanish Fly" when I was growing up? Yes the difference is then it was done in secret knowing that it was not right. Today everything including your sexuality is open for public view and discussion. This is partially what brought about the fall of the Roman Empire, Sodom and Gomorrah and many other empires and it will be the fall of the US and Canada if we continue on this course. Pro abortionists use the coat hanger phobia to prove their point but in actuallity more women have died or have been left permanantly sterile or phsycologically damaged by present day abortions than the amount of back door abortions of yesteryear. Needless to say those Abortion doctors are getting rich off the backs of those who are persuaded to go through that procedure. maybe a law should be past where a woman and her mate if need be should go through a period of councelling before the procedure is permitted. Right now a husband or a mate has no say in a womans decision. dajcat Hillary Clinton on Abortion 12 Feb 2009 ... The Methodist Church is very strongly pro-choice. ..... This bill deals with how young girls are being secretly taken across State lines for the .... funds to subsidize or promote abortions in the United States and overseas. ... Clinton co -sponsored ensuring access to and funding for contraception ... http://www.ontheissues.o...ry_Clinton_Abortion.htm - 58k - Cached - Similar pages
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Due to the bias of the media, a Catholic priest who LEAVES the Catholic church to marry, gets more news coverage than these sickos who use their brand of so-called Christianity as a cover for their cult of sadism.
Please show me that media article M. I have never seen one announcing the departure of a RC minister. Actually the media is out to destroy any belief in Christianity regardless of denominational affiliatiations. I'll quit for a few minutes now. there is a show coming on TV called "end time prophecies". I'll get back to you when it is over.
Well that was a very interesting program the second this week on the coming Rapture. I hope that you will beable to view it in the states. One of the statements made were that since George Bush Sr.(for the USA) began to negotiate a peace process wereby Israel would give up some of the land it won back during the 6 day war, the US has been hit with one disaster after another. some say it is only coincidence but the bible states "I will bless those who bless you (Israel) and curse those who hate you".
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But as I write, they are excavating a house in western Missouri where they have already found the bodies of at least eleven young women who were raped and murdered, along with another half dozen girls as young as 9 who were raped in one cult's idea of a 'protestant' church ritual. (Mlawson statement)
Once again M I would appreciate you giving me the newspaper or TV that broadcast or printed this story. Why use a cults idea of a Protestant church? I don't understand why you had to include that phrase. dajcat
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dajcat wrote:remember M that unless you know of this first hand and it is not something you have just heard about you are guilty of the sin of Gossip as much as if it were you next door neighbor. dajcat DONT FORGET COPYWRIGHT INFRINGEMENT!!!! You know. POsting something here without admitting that it isn't your words entirely and just a copy n' paste post. that way you dont have to correct yourself by saying it's not yours originally and just something you read and believe. Good thinkin! Thank you. "I am one of those unhappy persons who inspire bores to the greatest flights of art. "
Edith Sitwell
"Inka-Dinka-Du" -Jimmy Durante
Contemplating manifestations hidden in buried wounds. Bleed forth bringing old pains to new light Every step is cleansing, renewing and growing In the inertia of cycles, new inspiration flows like Wisdom's kiss.
(c) 2010 N. Marie L...
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Mlawson, i have researched your accusation regarding that Missouri incident and you owe the protestant community an apology. They have been charged but that does not mean convicted. they have not even been brought to trial. All of the charges that have been laid are merely on the hersay of a 29 year old woman . The area where these incidents were said to have happened has been thoroughly searched and as of Nov. 13 no bodies have been uncovered. I would have posted the exact newspaper report but am forbidden by copyright laws. How in the light of this can I be expected to believe anything you post. dajcat More charges filed against dad, sons in child sex case Posted 3d 12h ago | Comment | Recommend E-mail | Save | Print | LEXINGTON, Mo.  — Prosecutors in Missouri have filed 15 additional sex charges against a father and his adult sons who were already accused of sexually abusing children. The new charges stem from 1984 to 1989 and accuse Burrell E. Mohler Sr., 77, of Independence of rape, sodomy and use of a child in a sexual performance. His four sons, Jared Leroy Mohler, 48, of Columbia; Roland Neil Mohler, 47, of Bates City; and David A. Mohler, 52, of Lamoni, Iowa, were charged with rape. The original complaint, which has allegations that date from 1988 to 1995, includes charges of forcible sodomy, rape with a child younger than 12 and use of a child in a sexual performance. All five men were scheduled to be arraigned Tuesday on the original charges and are being held in the Lafayette County jail. It was not clear if any of the men had lawyers; no attorneys were listed on any of the court documents. No additional charges were filed against the sixth person accused in the case, Darrel W. Mohler, 72. He is being held in Marion County, Fla. on two counts of rape stemming from 1986. It also was not immediately clear whether he had an attorney, but he has said he had no idea about the allegations against him and that he has lived at his Silver Springs, Fla. home since 1984.
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I will post in CAPS only to differentiate who's posting is who's. This was the question presented to me by a Catholic gentleman which I recently witnessed to. He listened attentively as I shared the Gospel of Jesus Christ with him. He told me he had been a Catholic his entire life. As we conversed, I realized that he had high views of the Catholic church. I tried to explain to him the errors and blasphemies of Catholicism. Then he defended Catholicism by asking, “There's so many problems in the world, why criticize religion?” I thought upon his sincere question for a brief moment and then gave him the following reasoning. “Yes, the world is in a mess! Who could argue with that fact? 'Tis true, mankind has never been able to govern himself. However, who doesn't know that? To expose the troubles of the world is like stating that the sky is blue. On the other hand, false religion is deceitful. The Devil tries to counterfeit the truth with his lies and Satanic doctrines as best as he possibly can. The average person knows what is wrong with homosexuality, it is common sense. However, religion comes to us in the name of Jesus, deceitfully appearing as true Christianity. It is for this critical reason that I root out and expose false doctrines and heretics.” AND HOMOSEXUALS??? HONEY, THEY'RE OUT UNLESS THEY ARE IN THE SOUTH WHERE THEY ARE BURNT IN HATE CRIMES. THERE HERE, THERE QUEER. ISN'T THAT HOW IT GOES? SHOULDN'T HAVE DUMPED YOUR DAUGHTER'S BIRTH CONTROL PILLS DOWN THE TOILET SO THE HORMONES CAN INFECT OUR WATERS AND BODIES. BUT I DIGRESS...MOVING ON. Satan is a master counterfeiter. We read in God's Word . . . OK. I AGREE WITH THAT. NEXT. "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." (2nd Corinthians 11:13-15) WELL, I DONT RECALL BEING LABELED AN ANGEL OF LIGHT MASELF, SO THAT'S FULL OF CRAP...AND MY CATHOLIC BUDDIES ALSO -MINISTERS INCLUDED- DONT CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE SO EITHER. JUST PRIESTS AND DEACONS AND CCD TEACHERS AND SUCH. JUST HUMAN BELIEVERS LIKE YOU. NEXT. Question: Who are these imposters? If you listen to folks like Paul Harvey or Oprah Winfrey, you'd think all roads lead to heaven—a big lie of the Devil. My friend, all flights do not lead to Dallas, Texas. We must be careful about adopting silly reasoning based on human reasoning. I once met a man who believed in reincarnation, simply because he learned that a caterpillar transforms from one form into another (a butterfly). He is basing his eternal soul's destiny on foolishness. You had better sit down with a King James Bible and decide for yourself whether or not YOU believe it is God's Word. I made my decision years that the King James Bible IS WITHOUT A DOUBT the eternally preserved, inerrant, infallible, inspired, holy Word of God! There is NO other Final Authority than God's Word, and I believe it to be the King James Bible for the English-speaking world. OK. I'LL BUY THAT TOO. I cannot make you believe the Bible, you MUST (and will) decide that for yourself. Every person, no matter who, MUST decide what the Bible means to them. You can either reject God's Word and live your life destitute of the truth, sealing your own doom; or else you can believe the Bible and obey it, pleasing God. The Bible has never been disproved! Take the challenge, if you dare. Science, history and archeology all support the Bible. i DONT NEED TO TAKE A CHALLENGE. I ALREADY BELIEVE. THIS DARE IS RETARDED. IT ASSUMES THAT I DONT KNOW ANYTHING OR BELIEVE ANYTHING IN THE BIBLE AND YOU DO MORE THAN ME. SOUNDS PRETTY PROUD. GUESS WHO MADE THAT MISTAKE TOO?? Why do I criticize religion? Because it influences people to turn away from the Living God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Oh, how wicked are those priests and false prophets who lead people into damnation with their manmade traditions. I ALWAYS APPRECIATED HAVING SOMEONE TO GO TO IN CONFESSION. RELIGION IS THE ACT OF DOING SOMETHING. YOU 'RELIGIOUSLY' BRUSH YOUR TEETH EVERY MORNING AND BEFORE BED. WHAT'S WRONG WITH A LITTLE STABILITY. SO THEY PROVIDED A WAY TO CLEAN OUT THE SOUL AND DETOX OUR SPIRITS. YEP. PRETTY SCARY STUFF. God's batting average is pretty good friend, YOU ARE NOT MY FRIEND IF YOU ASSUME GOD TO BE A PERSON WHO WEILDS A BASEBALL BAT FOR ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOU. THAT'S BLASPHEMY. He hasn't had a strike out yet. You'd be wise to stick with God. I DO. YOU DONT KNOW ME TO MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION. YOU ONLY HEAR CATHOLIC LIKE A 4 YEAR OLD HEARS BRUSSEL SPROUTS. QUITE IGNORANT REALLY. Unfortunately, the Catholic gentleman I witnessed to did not get saved. WHO ARE YOU TO PLAY HERO? He is still too enamored with the almighty Catholic church to see the truth about it. NOTHING MIGHTY ABOUT IT. WE'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIZED. WHOOPIE DO. WE'RE BELIEVERS JUST LIKE YOU. WE BLEED RED, OUR POOP DOESN'T SMELL LIKE ROSES AND WE LOVE GOD. JUST LIKE YOU! AGAIN. STUPID ASSUMPTION. Unless he repents of his unbelief, AGAIN. STUPID ASSUMPTION THAT WE DO NOT BELIEVE. he will die in his self-righteousness NOT SELF RIGHTEOUS AT ALL. THAT'S A FALSE ASSUMPTION AGAIN. ITS' LIKE BEATING A DEAD HORSE. and have to pay for his own sins in Hell forever. YOU ARE NOT GOD SO WHERE DO YOU GET THIS? You see friend, Catholicism is extremely dangerous (as is ALL false religions). ACTUALLY, MINE'S A BOMB SHELTER FROM WAY BACK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. Pope Paul VI, November 21, 1962 (Vatican II) said that the Catholic church is the only way to salvation. He said that baptism is the “door” into the church (the Catholic Church exclusively). He said that a person could not be saved apart from the Catholic Church. This is blasphemy!!! John 10:9 makes clear that ONLY Jesus is the DOOR into Heaven. There is not one Scripture in all the Bible telling us to trust the church—not one! Pope Paul VI is a fool! Trusting the church, any church, is a sure road to destruction. i WILL HAVE TO CHECK THIS MYSELF WHEN i SEE THE MSGR. MY OPINION IS THAT THIS WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. Water baptism is NOT a door! Getting baptized will just get you wet. WHAT ABOUT WATER N' SPIRIT. The Bible proclaims, YE MUST BE BORN-AGAIN (John 3:3-7). You won't hear the Pope mention being "born-again." I'VE HEARD MY PRIEST SAY IT A TIME OR TWO. The Catholic Church arrogantly teaches that it is the door to Heaven. This is a wicked Satanic lie of the Devil! SAYING THIS IS A LIE. I HAVE NEVER HEARD MY PRIEST SAY THAT THE RC WAS THE DOOR TO HEAVEN. The Pope claims to be infallible on all matters of faith and morals. This is another lie! The Bible says, “For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). Apart from Jesus Christ, the Pope is a dope and he has no hope! MEANIAL INSULTS. TAKES A DOPE TO KNOW A DOPE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT. YOU WANT ME TO RESPECT THIS PERSON AND LISTEN TO HIM? THIS SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE SAYING STUPID IDIOMS LIKE "BUSIER THAN A ONE ARMED PAPER HANGER" If this offends you, so be it. IS THAT COVERING YOUR BASES? UM OK. How dare him claim to be infallible! HOW DARE HIM? PASS 3RD GRADE GRAMMAR? OH THE CREDENTIALS ARE PILING UP FOR THIS JOKER! The Catholic Church cannot save anyone, not even itself. ONLY Jesus Christ can save! ACTUALLY THIS STATEMENT IS FALSE IN THE FIRST HALF. WE BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS OUR ONLY SAVIOR. TO ACCUSE US OF BELIEVING THAT STAYING IN CHURCH IS A MOOT STATEMENT. Please don't be a fool. YOU ASSUME? ? If you think you're going to get to Heaven through a religious organization, then you are mightily mistaken. ACTUALLY ...AGAIN....AD NASEUM WE DONT. WE JUST BELONG TO ONE. THAT IS ALL. JUST LIKE YOU BAPTISTS BELONG TO AN ORGANIZATION. The Pope is NOT saved, he knows not the Lord. YOU DO NOT KNOW THE PERSONAL RELATIOSHIP OF ANOTHER PERSON AND GOD. ONLY THE OTHER PERSON AND GOD KNOW. JEALOUS THAT YOU CAN'T READ MINDS OR HEARTS THAT YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF RUINING A RELATIONSHIP BY DESTROYING EVERYONE THE POPE TAKES CARE OF FOR GOD? POOR POOR YOU. GET OVER IT. YOU'RE NOT GOD. INJEST THIS AND BE BLESSED. Only apostate ministers and men praise the Pope. WHAT? WE CAN'T APPRECIATE SOMEONE FOR DOING SOMETHING FOR GOD? WHAT MAKES YOU SO PERFECT? THIS IS ONLY AN INSULT. MOVING ON. If the Pope were a genuine Christian, then he surely would not claim to be God upon the earth. AHHHHH GOTCHA!!!! STUPID ASS CLAIMS THAT THE POPE CLAIMS TO BE GOD ON EARTH...AND BY WHAT MEASURE? YOUR BAPTIST JEALOUSY? POPE IS A PUBLIC FIGURE WHO'S LIFE IS MORE OUT THERE THAN SOME MINISTER IN A BAPTIST CHURCH WHO'S JUST GOT HIS 15 MINUTES OF FAME BY WRITING THIS LETTER SO POOR UNSUSPECTING LADIES IN A BAPTIST BIBLE SCHOOL CAN SOAK IT IN AND CAUSE SPIRITUALLY CANCEROUS HAVOC IN A FORUM OF THOSE WHO ONLY WISH TO SHARE AND LEARN. HE'S NEVER SAID OR AUDACIOUSLY PROCLAIMED THAT HE WAS GOD. THIS IS A FALSE LIE AND PRETTY SAD AND JEALOUS ONE TOO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT. HE'S GOT A BIGGER BOWL OF FISH TO SWIM WITH, THAT IS ALL. JUST LIKE A SUPERINTENDENT IS WAYYY OVER A TEACHER. THAT IS ALL. NOT GOD. THAT IS A FALSE LIE AND HATEFUL JEALOUS REMARK TO MAKE. I'M NOT PARTICULARLY FOND OF BENEDICT=I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIM- BUT I CAN SAY THAT FROM WHAT I GATHERED OF JP2, HE WAS AN OK GUY FOR A HUMAN WORKING FOR GOD. SORRY, SISTER SALLY, BUT YOU GOT BLINDSIDED THERE. The bottom line is that many Catholics choose to remain willfully ignorant of the truth. The same was true of the unbelieving Jews in Jesus' time. ACTAULLY, NO AND A *BIG* NO AGAIN! WE DO BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS GOD'S SON AND SAVIOR OF THE WORLD. VERY FEW SCANT JEWS DID. Jesus said to them in Mark 7:9, "Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition." The truth is obvious, but their hearts are stone cold because of their loyalty to family tradition, etc. Billions of Catholic souls are headed for Hell if they don't stop trusting in their own self-righteousness for salvation. NOT SELFRIGHTEOUSNESS. SORRY. JUST BELIEF. LIKE YOU. Hey, ask the Pope to show you the scars in his heads where he died on a cross for you. THERE'S BLASPHEMY. Ask the priest to show you the scars from the crown of thorns. THAT IS BLASPHEMY TOO. HE'S NOT JESUS, AS HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE. HE JUST CLAIMS TO BE A PRIEST WORKING FOR JESUS. Ask a Catholic Cardinal to show you his nail-scarred feet. AGAIN, BLASPHEMOUS. WOW. ISN'T THAT LIKE CALLING A SPADE A SPADE? They can't, because they didn't pay for your sins—Jesus did! YEAH. WE'RE AHEAD OF YOU ON THAT ONE, SPARKY. GOT ANY MORE RHETORIC? Why do I criticize religion? Because it sends people to Hell. Catholicism is sending people to Hell. In Luke 11:44 Jesus said to the Jewish religious leaders, "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them." Only through the Truth of God's Word will people's darkened eyes be opened. I criticize religion because most people are woefully ignorant of their Scriptures and fail to recognize the truth. There are thousands religions, and not one of them can take you to Heaven. Salvation is NOT found in a religion, it is found in a Person—the Lord Jesus Christ! Religion didn't pay for our sins, Jesus did! GREAT! SO I CAN NOT GO TO A BAPTIST CHURCH EITHER AND I CAN BE SAVED! YOU WONT MIND NOW WOULD YOU? Also, the Catholic religion has taken Jesus' sweet mother, Mary, and morphed her into a monstrosity. Catholics teach three distinct heresies concerning Mary which are not taught in the Scriptures: The Immaculate Conception (the heresy that Mary was born without a sin-nature and never sinned) DID YOU GET TO READ HER CRIMINAL RECORD? The Perpetual Virginity of Mary (the heresy that Mary never had sex nor children after Christ's birth) AHH THE SICKNESS OF SPECULATING HER SEX LIFE. YEP, CAN'T FORGET THAT ONE. The Assumption of Mary (the heresy that Mary was bodily taken into Heaven without an earthly death) WELL, WHERE ARE THE BONES? HM? WE'VE GOT FORENSIC DNA ON OUR SIDE NOW, LET'S GET CRACKIN! EXACTLY. At first glance, the Catholic Church may look real and seem legitimate; but at it's core it is Satanic in belief and practice. LIE! WE DO NOT WORSHIP SATAN, THANK YOU. WE WORSHIP GOD AND JESUS AND PRAY TO GOD AND JESUS, THANK YOU!!! I believe most Catholics are sincere, YOU BELIEVE IN THE SOUTHERN FRIED TOOTHFAIRY. but so were all the passengers aboard the Hindenburg blimp that went down in flames on May 6, 1937. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO WITH THE PRICE OF TEA IN CHINA??? GETTING OFF A SUBJECT TO DRAMATIZE A POINT THAT IS BASED ON FALSE GOSSIP, BLASPHEMY AND LIES? WHY NOT MENTION THE PEOPLE FALLING OFF BUILDINGS IN NYC ON 9/11 TOO. I KNOW A GREAT BORN AGAIN THAT DID THAT AND PROFITED OFF OF THE SOULS OF THOSE WHO DIED IN THAT TRAVESTY WHILST TURNING A GREAT OIL PROFIT FROM THE VERY COUNTRIES THAT GIVE US TERRORISM! LET'S GET BACK TO THE POINT, SHALL WE? If you've never acknowledged your guilt of sin and have never come to the Heavenly Father by way of the cross of Jesus Christ for forgiveness, then you need to be saved friend. Eternal life is a free gift. Salvation is receiving, not giving. AGAIN, THIS WRITER IS ASSUMING THAT I HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS OR GOD BECUASE I COME FROM CATHOLIC ROOTS. THIS IS REDICULOUS. ALTHOUGH I DO ADMIT FREELY THAT I HAVE A LOT TO LEARN SPRITUALLY, I BELIEVE THIS PERSON TO BE MARKETING HIS RELIGION BY MEANS OF EMOTIONAL AND RHETORICAL BS. SHEEP STEALING REALLY. MAYBE HE'S A MASON. . THEY HATE CATHOLICS AS A GENERAL RULE. THIS PERSON IS DAMNING CATHOLICS WHEN HE HAS NO CLUE AS TO WHAT A CATHOLICS HEART IS TO GOD. THIS PERSON IS ON A MISSION TO SHEEP STEAL AND NOTHING MORE. HE HAS NO CLUE. THANK YOU. I SPEAK FROM FIRST HAND CATHOLIC EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN TO A BAPTIST CHURCH FIRST HAND. "I am one of those unhappy persons who inspire bores to the greatest flights of art. "
Edith Sitwell
"Inka-Dinka-Du" -Jimmy Durante
Contemplating manifestations hidden in buried wounds. Bleed forth bringing old pains to new light Every step is cleansing, renewing and growing In the inertia of cycles, new inspiration flows like Wisdom's kiss.
(c) 2010 N. Marie L...
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I have a Bible Lesson to share with all of you- It is as relevant today as it was at the time of Ezra. If you remember, after the Return of The Jewish People after their 70 year Exile, they were instructed to rebuild the Temple by God. There was Opposition by some people to stop the construction. (Ezra 4) (Don't LET Opposition stop you - that's how we know we are doing good- Satan's group will try to stop us)
The Devil's crowd attempts to stop the construction of the Temple. Satan always battles to prevent the building of the House of the Lord. This is true whether we are speaking of the building of local churches, the membership of a local Church, or the believer as the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Satan used (and uses) the following techniques:
A. The Devil's crowd disguished ungodly compromise as a great work of unity and tolerance.
(Ezra 4:1-3)
1. The Pagan enemies of Israel request that they be allowed to join in the construction of a great ecumenical temple of UNIVERSAL religion. Zerubbabel and Jeshua/Joshua declare: "Ye have nothing to do with us..we ourselves together will build an house unto the LORD God of Israel..."
*Note: Today, we see much emphasis upon ecumenical joining of all religions in the name of unity, love, tolerance and pluralism. The goals of this movement may sound noble. However, when truth is compromised on the altar of unity, untruth and spiritual error is the result. Scripture warns against compromise with false docrines and warns of a great unified false church in the last days. Neither unity for unity sake, nor divisiveness for divisveness' sake, honors God.
2. These enemies were the ancient Samaritians. These people were half-Jewish and half-Gentile. They were the result of the intermarriages of those Jews left in the northern kingdom (after it was conquered by Assyria) with the pagan Gentile peoples the Assyrians transported to the land of Israel. Samaritans worshipped Jehovah, but they also worshipped other gods. Their religion was a mixture of true and false.
B. The Devil's crowd used a Smear Campaign. (Ezra 4:4-5) People like to hear gossip and will believe the gossip, even when proven wrong, over the Truth)
C. The Devil's Crowd used constant attacks to wear down the workers. (Ezra 4:6-23) Satan will lead attacks to a Church or some believers that is doing good. If Satan leaves you alone- you may not be doing his work.)
This passage is a topical parenthesis in the historical narrative containing letters written much later. This shows that the enemies never gave up, but continued their letter writing attacks throughout all three returns throughout the reigns of Cyrus, Cambyses, Smerdis, Darius, Ahasuerus, and Artaxerxes.
D. The Devil's crowd used Discouragement. The Jews were caused to temporarily cease the work on the House of the Lord by force. (Ezra 4:23-24) They became Distracted by the attacks but God encouraged them to keep doing the work of the Lord.
DOESN'T THIS ALL SOUND FAMILIAR TODAY? Don't compromise your beliefs and tolerant Satan's attacks. Don't let what people try to say against you as smears, discourage you. Satan will be constantly after you but don't be discouraged or distracted! Satan is not out to be your friend!
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Correction-- If Satan leaves you alone then maybe you're doing his work! He'll only come after you if you're doing God's work!! He has to be brazen, loud and tell you lies to discourage your work. God will see you through all of Satan's attacks. Keep on Keeping on!!
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Sally, Some one once said "the devil is never too busy to rock the cradle of a sleeping christian" Have a blessed Thanksgiving david
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May ALL the"Temple workers" have a Blessed, Safe Day--and that you don't eat ALL the bounty by yourself!!
Do you know WHY we had to change our TV reception to HD and get new TV's that were able to pick up that signal???
Answer -- THE entire world had to get on the same system of broadcasting-- USA needed to comply. Could it be that we all will need to hear, see and witness something that will be global in nature?? As the Bible says, all will be able to see the news at the same time all over the world, such as the two witnesses preaching and being killed, laying in the streets for 3 days and quickened back to life and ascended to Heaven. Such as the Antichrist sending out his messages, being killed and returning to life?? The End times signs continue to be noticed!!
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What if you dont even watch TV? "I am one of those unhappy persons who inspire bores to the greatest flights of art. "
Edith Sitwell
"Inka-Dinka-Du" -Jimmy Durante
Contemplating manifestations hidden in buried wounds. Bleed forth bringing old pains to new light Every step is cleansing, renewing and growing In the inertia of cycles, new inspiration flows like Wisdom's kiss.
(c) 2010 N. Marie L...
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