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cheriq
#41 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:09:47 PM

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dajcat wrote:
you don't have to use the word REBUKE to rebuke Cheriq and by the way that passage about hair was a cultural thing for that age. Is it a sin for a man to have long hair? I don't think so as God looks on the heart not on the outward appearance. that passage has nothing to do with our salvation any more than women wearing pants go to church or all men must be circumcised. reading that whole discourse it seems there was contention in the church at Corinth over this matter and Paul ends his statement on this matter in verse 1 Cor. 11: 16

ywatchman David:



Ah! A cultural thing is your excuse. I see. So, you can cherry pick Paul's injunctions then, too.
Can we just admit we may have taken this 'anyone can grow up to be President' thing just a bit too far?

Remember back when Sarah Palin was the craziest person in politics? GOOD TIMES.

In order to insult me, I must first value your opinion...nice try though.

I'm going to quit asking, "How dumb can you get?" People seem to be taking it as a challenge.

KEEP TALKING. I'm diagnosing you.







dajcat
#42 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:19:26 PM

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5 out of seven is not too bad anyway and I left out a few. but i still question your assumption.

1 Samuel 17: 45-46 reads like a pretty good rebuke to me and WHY WHAT EVIL HATH HE DONE seems like a rebuke to me.


watchman David
ixoye_8
#43 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:40:15 PM

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dajcat wrote:
5 out of seven is not too bad anyway and I left out a few. but i still question your assumption.

1 Samuel 17: 45-46 reads like a pretty good rebuke to me and WHY WHAT EVIL HATH HE DONE seems like a rebuke to me.


AND WHY DID JESUS MY MASTER REBUKE ???
ONLY FOR SINNING AGAINST GOD .. NEVER OVER HIS BRUISED EGO ..
mjfrog2010
#44 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 11:21:27 PM

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WHO IS YOUR WHATEVERS MASTER?? SHE CAN QUOTE ALL DAY LONG,,BUT SAYS SHE DOESNT ACCEPT IT. ITS BEING A FAKER TO CLAIM TO TEACH US HOW TO FOLLOW GOD,,,YOU, IX, WONDER AIMLESSLY WHILE PATTING YOURSELF ON THE BACK FOR KNOWING SOME GREEK AND SOME CATHOLICISM. YOU ARE NOT A TEACHER,,NOR A PREACHER,,NOR ANYTHING THAT I DONT REBUKE.
dajcat
#45 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 11:21:57 PM

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sorry to say ix but Jesus is not your master. If He were you would not be preaching that you don't need .Him to access the Father.

watchman David


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ixoye_8
#46 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 11:54:07 PM

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sorry to say dajcat, but Jesus is not your master .. If He were you would believe the bible ..
Jhn 6:44 “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.

I SAID YOU MUST BELIEVE AND OBEY JESUS TO GAIN SALVATION ..
SO YOU BALD FACE LIE .. REPENT ..
ixoye_8
#47 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 11:56:19 PM

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YOU FROIG, ARE THE SPAWN OF SATAN ..
1Jo 3:10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.


mjfrog2010 wrote:
WHO IS YOUR WHATEVERS MASTER?? SHE CAN QUOTE ALL DAY LONG,,BUT SAYS SHE DOESNT ACCEPT IT. ITS BEING A FAKER TO CLAIM TO TEACH US HOW TO FOLLOW GOD,,,YOU, IX, WONDER AIMLESSLY WHILE PATTING YOURSELF ON THE BACK FOR KNOWING SOME GREEK AND SOME CATHOLICISM. YOU ARE NOT A TEACHER,,NOR A PREACHER,,NOR ANYTHING THAT I DONT REBUKE.

mjfrog2010
#48 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2019 2:24:43 AM

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CALLING ME EVIL DOES NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION,,,,WHO IS CHERI'S MASTER?? CANT EITHERT ONE OF YOU ANSWER THAT?? WHY WOULD THAT BE??
cheriq
#49 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2019 1:17:53 PM

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mjfrog2010 wrote:
CALLING ME EVIL DOES NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION,,,,WHO IS CHERI'S MASTER?? CANT EITHERT ONE OF YOU ANSWER THAT?? WHY WOULD THAT BE??


YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. GO STUDY THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES AND THEIR USE BY MATTHEW.

MASTER? I AM MY OWN MASTER - I DO AS I WILL HARMING NONE.

YOU NEED A MASTER? NOT SURPRISING.
Can we just admit we may have taken this 'anyone can grow up to be President' thing just a bit too far?

Remember back when Sarah Palin was the craziest person in politics? GOOD TIMES.

In order to insult me, I must first value your opinion...nice try though.

I'm going to quit asking, "How dumb can you get?" People seem to be taking it as a challenge.

KEEP TALKING. I'm diagnosing you.







dajcat
#50 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 2:13:54 PM

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but you might be harming someone Cheriq. Say for instance your grandchildren who hear you say you don't need Jesus to talk to the Father or someone else whose faith is teetering on the brink. Is that not why you are here? To pit your beliefs against ours?



watchman David
dajcat
#51 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 2:25:17 PM

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The Father draws you to believe in jesus ix . Why would He send Jesus if not to draw you to Him? JESUS IS THE REASON Ik The Wise Men caim to worship Jesus and we should do the same. Don't deny you agree with Cheriq, that would only be heaping another lie on yourself.



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cheriq
#52 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 4:58:48 PM

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dajcat wrote:
but you might be harming someone Cheriq. Say for instance your grandchildren who hear you say you don't need Jesus to talk to the Father or someone else whose faith is teetering on the brink. I credit people with having their own minds, and encourage them to research as well as meditate (or "pray", if you prefer). Is that not why you are here? To pit your beliefs against ours? NOT at all. Perhaps, you need to understand, and drop your arrogance that YOU ARE RIGHT and those who have different views are WRONG. Tain't so.



watchman David

Can we just admit we may have taken this 'anyone can grow up to be President' thing just a bit too far?

Remember back when Sarah Palin was the craziest person in politics? GOOD TIMES.

In order to insult me, I must first value your opinion...nice try though.

I'm going to quit asking, "How dumb can you get?" People seem to be taking it as a challenge.

KEEP TALKING. I'm diagnosing you.







ixoye_8
#53 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 4:59:06 PM

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dajcat wrote:
Why would He send Jesus if not to draw you to Him?
Don't deny you agree with Cheriq, that would only be heaping another lie on yourself.


THE ANSWER DAVID IS TO PAY A PRICE NO MAN COULD ..
CHERI AND I DO NOT HOLD IDENTICAL BELIEFS .. AND THAT IS A FACT ..
YOU LIE BY CALLING THAT A LIE, AND ALSO LIE BY SAYING "ANOTHER"
Shame on you Shame on you
dajcat
#54 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 8:01:04 PM

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and why did Jesus need to pay a price that no one else could? and I do not lie. you do not agree on scripture on a number of items,
don't deny you do not agree with her on the need of needing Jesus.


watchman David
ixoye_8
#55 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 8:17:15 PM

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dajcat wrote:
and why did Jesus need to pay a price that no one else could? and I do not lie. you do not agree on scripture on a number of items,
don't deny you do not agree with her on the need of needing Jesus.


WHY DONT YOU KNOW ???
YES YOU DO LIE Sneaky
YOU IGNORE SCRIPTURE IF IT REFUTES YOUR DOGMAS ..
I DISAGREE WITH CHERI ON AN ASSORTMENT OF BIBLICAL ISSUES ..
BUT UNLIKE YOU .. I DONT CHASE PEOPLE FROM GOD BY REFUSING TO SHOW PATIENCE AND COMPASSION TO OTHERS ..
A PERSONS EXAMPLE IS ALWAYS MORE POWERFUL THEN THEIR WORDS ..
dajcat
#56 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2019 6:37:00 PM

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tomorrow may be too late Ix and you do agree with Cheriq on not needing Jesus to access the Father so why skirt around it with
AN ASSORTMENT OF BIBLE ISSUES .

WHAT PART OF SCRIPTURE DOI IGNORE ?

watchman David
cfirebird65
#57 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2019 3:45:09 AM

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dajcat wrote:
WHAT PART OF SCRIPTURE DOI IGNORE ?

You ignore ALL THE SCRIPTURE THAT IS MISSING FROM YOUR INCOMPLETE BIBLE AND THE ERRORS IN THEM.

YOU ALSO PROMOTE PROTESTANT ERRORS AND CLAIM YOU GIVE US BIBLICAL TRUTH.

Luther removed 7 books which contain most of our doctrines (hence your lies that you can't find this or that in your Protestant Bible.

You tell those lies to cast doubt on Catholic beliefs.

Examine your duplicity instead of pretending your interpretation of Scripture is the Gospel of Jesus.

Psalm 51:7 (NAB) "Behold, I was born in guilt, In sin my mother conceived me." This verse tells us that we are conceived in the iniquity of sin, hence the need to baptize infants.

Mt.19:14-15 "LET THE LITTLE CHILDREN COME UNTO ME." Jesus did not exclude infants from His salvific graces nor put any age requirement on the Sacrament of Baptism.

Acts 2:38-39 "Repent, and be baptized EVERY ONE OF YOU in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you AND TO YOUR CHILDREN". This verse includes children, even infants. Intellectual assent by infants and children under the age of reason was not required in the NT.

"Baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit in living water [that is, in running water, as in a river]. If there is no living water, baptize in other water; and, if you are not able to use cold water, use warm. If you have neither, pour water three times upon the head in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit." Ch. 7, The Didache on 'Baptism, A.D. 70

"The Church has received from the Apostles the custom of administering Baptism even to infants.....all are tainted with the stain of original sin, which must be washed off by water and the Spirit." Origen (185-254 A.D) on 'Baptism,' Alexandrian, Philosopher, Theologian and Writer



dajcat
#58 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2019 8:52:02 AM

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Good morning Firebird, If most of your doctrine is founded on the Apocrypha you surely are in a bad condiition.

If you do not tell me what part of scripture I am possibly in error on how can i correct it?


watchman David


cfirebird65
#59 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2019 10:55:24 AM

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dajcat wrote:
If most of your doctrine is founded on the Apocrypha you surely are in a bad condiition.
If you do not tell me what part of scripture I am possibly in error on how can i correct it?

dajbaal, stop looking in your mirror and finding YOU ARE IN BAD CONDITION. Get over your unscrupulous anti-Catholic bigotry and ignorant opinions because they are not God's Word!
Liar Shame on you
This topic on Luther removing 7 books from Scripture has been discussed many times over the 10 years you have been online. YOU ARE SHOWN YOUR ERRORS EVERY TIME YOU POST YOUR WILD OPINIONS WITHOUT ANY HISTORICAL REFERENCE. Either you are getting senile or you just love flinging anti-Catholic rocks to while away your loneliness.

Why don't you learn a different POV from ancient Christian writers? Why don't you copy the content in those notes for future reference? I suspect you are stubborn and like to cling to your yahoos' opinions from the internet and your fundamentalist dogma. You also take liberties with God's Word and ignore the 2000 year old history of Christian beliefs.

Unlike Protestants who bicker over Scripture verses and start new churches (which led to splintering into 49,000+ divisions with watered-down doctrines taught by fake pastors with phony credentials), the Catholic Church has the official interpretation of the Bible - the Sacred Book it compiled 1500 years ago. The Church also has a priesthood with APOSTOLIC LINEAGE through the laying of hands. This is how Christ ordained it for His Bride whom He called the Pillar and Ground of truth. You can't show me anywhere in Scripture that Jesus appointed Luther's Church as the official interpreter of His teachings and that anyone can become a pastor and teach their opinions are God's Word like you do..
RollEyes
For Catholics, it is not a matter of scoring but a matter of authority. Someone has to close the canon. In other words, some authority has to say “these books are inspired and these books are not inspired.” It was the Catholic Church that made that determination.

Without the authority of the Catholic Church, how does a Protestant know which books belong in the New Testament?

Reformed theologian R. C. Sproul honestly admits that the Protestant position can at best claim “a fallible collection of infallible books” (Essential Truths of the Christian Faith [Wheaton, Ill.: Tyndale House, 1992], 22).




Psalm 51:7 (NAB) "Behold, I was born in guilt, In sin my mother conceived me." This verse tells us that we are conceived in the iniquity of sin, hence the need to baptize infants.

Mt.19:14-15 "LET THE LITTLE CHILDREN COME UNTO ME." Jesus did not exclude infants from His salvific graces nor put any age requirement on the Sacrament of Baptism.

Acts 2:38-39 "Repent, and be baptized EVERY ONE OF YOU in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you AND TO YOUR CHILDREN". This verse includes children, even infants. Intellectual assent by infants and children under the age of reason was not required in the NT.

"Baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit in living water [that is, in running water, as in a river]. If there is no living water, baptize in other water; and, if you are not able to use cold water, use warm. If you have neither, pour water three times upon the head in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit." Ch. 7, The Didache on 'Baptism, A.D. 70

"The Church has received from the Apostles the custom of administering Baptism even to infants.....all are tainted with the stain of original sin, which must be washed off by water and the Spirit." Origen (185-254 A.D) on 'Baptism,' Alexandrian, Philosopher, Theologian and Writer



dajcat
#60 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2019 10:57:08 PM

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I AM STUBBORN , STUBBORN FOR CHRIST, NOT IN ANY DENOMINATION, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT CLAIMS THEY ARE THE ONLT TRUE CHURCH AND UNLESS YOU ARE OF THAT PERSUASION YOU CANNOT BE SAVED. GOD HAS NO FIRSTS OR SECONDS.
LIKE LUTHER WHO BY SEARCHING THE SCRIPTURE FOUND WE ARE SAVED BY GRACE NOT BY WORKS, I FOUND YOU OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC PERSUASION .ARE ANATHEMA, CURSED BY GOD.
COME OUT OF IT WHILE YOU STILL HAVE TIME.



watchman David
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