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EDO RAM - Charles Cryderman wrote in the thread "If I am Elected": It just amazes me the way you people keep going on about this. First the media did a recount of their own and found that there was no difference in who won the Florida vote. Second, if these people in Florida are so stupid that they can't figure out how to vote then maybe they are to stupid to even be permitted to vote. I have used the old lever machines, optical scan machines as well as absentee and punch cards. Found them all easy to use and understand. Besides, if they are that stupid there are people at the polling places to teach them how to vote.Not quite right. Consider the following quote from Greg Palast,investigative reporter for BBC, and author of _The Best Democracy MoneyCan Buy_:"Five months before the election, Florida Secretary of State KatherineHarris ordered the removal of 57,700 names from Florida's voter rolls ongrounds that they were felons. Voter rolls contain the names of alleligible, registered voters. If you're not on the list, you don't get tovote."If you commit a felony in Florida, you lose your right to vote there,and you're 'scrubbed' from the rolls. You become a non-citizen, like inthe old Soviet Union. This is not the case in most other states; it's anuncivilized vestige of the Deep South."My office carefully went through the scrub list and discovered that atminimum, 90.2 percent of the people were completely innocent of anycrime except for being African American. We didn't have to guess aboutthat, because next to each voter's name was their race."When I questioned Harris' office about the high percentage of AfricanAmericans on the scrub list, they responded, 'Well, you know how manyblack people commit crimes.'"{OOTC: I understand that the above questioning took place by telephone.)This and several other types of election fraud covered in the article(and the book) would never be detected by any recount, since theseballots were never cast.But there were also thousands of optical scan ballots that were cast butdidn't scan properly, and were therefore marked "spoiled" (even though ahuman could easily discern the markings). In predominantly blackdistricts the ballots were simply shoved in storage and never counted(or recounted).In case you're wondering, neighboring predominantly white districts hadavailable on-site verifying scanners in each polling place. Voters inthose districts whose ballots didn't scan were given the opportunity tore-mark a fresh ballot before leaving the polls, so those districts hadno "spoiled" ballots.Read the full article, "Winning the Election The Republican Way:Racism, Theft and Fraud in Florida"; The Weekly Dig, Boston, MA;Tuesday, April 22, 2003, at http://tinyurl.com/3bne2 .[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's the way things happen in Chicagoalso, and the Democratic 'Machine' hardly has its hands clean, either.The very same article could have been entitled 'Winning the Electionthe Democratic Way', etc and set in northern Illinois. Nationally,the whole system of elections needs such bad reform. And racismremains a serious problem also, not just in the deep south, althoughit is more obvious some places than others. People do not become lessracist as time goes on, they simply become more sophisticated in theways they hide their feelings. Years ago they used to use poll taxes,read/writing tests, or downright refusals to allow voting. Now theyuse more sophisticated methods such as taking people police haveselected to go to jail (guilt not a factor on that) and eliminate themwith the same results. PAT]




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