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HyperText Markup Language - Oliver (didn't save any I found in my first GTE desk) Penn wrote: I would like to purchase pre-GTE General System mechanical pencil. You ex-GTE folks remember them. Dark green octagonal, some with ball-top dialer and some just pencils. Contact me if you have any with which you could part. Looking for lead too. I think it's 1.2mm. 0.9mm drops right through the barrel.It wasn't just General Telephone (and Electronics) who issued suchpencils. I know that Bell/AT&T issued identical style mechanicalpencils as well many years ago. I think that it was called anOperator's "Mark-sense" pencil since she used it to write up a"mark-sense" billing ticket. It was also called a "dialing tool" withthe roller-ball on the back end, used to insert into finger holes in arotary dial.I was given one of those Bell System mechanical pencils by a retiredtelephone operator, but ... sorry, I'm not really willing to part withit! :-)There are some 1940s/50s era Operator Toll Dialing training films atthe Prelinger Archives at www.archive.org which show the use of the"dialing tool" on old rotary dials at cordboard operator positions.(Of course the Multifrequency Keyset for Operators was also in useat that time as well).The Bell System's "dialing tool" / mark-sense pencil was also eitherhexagonal or octagonal for the dark green stem, but it was stampedalong one side (near the dialing roller-ball end) in yellow or gray as"BELL SYSTEM".Was your old General Telephone (and Electronics) pencil as "GENERALTELEPHONE SYSTEM"?And speaking of old GT&E / General Telephone System, does anyone havea *decent* copy of *OLD* (pre-1970s; i.e., 1950s/60s era) logo forGeneral Telephone, as a jpg or gif or even bmp?That was the logo which was trapezoidal in shape, and curved slightly,almost like an *OLD* 1950s/60s era TV CRT-screen (the logo itself cameout in the mid-50s, I think, and probably was designed as acarriacature of that style of TV screen in common use at the time)...With the word GENERAL spelled out inside the border, across the top;SYSTEM spelled out inside the border, across the bottom; and then inthe middle was a carriacature of a desk telephone with a horizontallyplaced OVERSIZED handset, to represent the word TELEPHONE, as inGENERAL TELEPHONE SYSTEM, probably a "knock off" of the BELL(Telephone) SYSTEM.In the early 1970s, GT&E shortened its acronym to simply GTE, with the1970s/80s/90s (pre-VeriZon) l rounded corners rectangular logo withthe unique font for 'GTE' in caps.But the older 1950s/60s logo would still have "legacy" embeddedness inGT&E service areas, on payphones, etc. until slowly replaced by the1970s/80s/90s era logo. However, GTE-held (via its Anglo-Canadiansubsidiary) BC-Tel in British Columbia (CANADA) seemed to retain thatolder 1950s/60s era logo into the 1980s (at least), but with thelettering 'B.C. TEL' (slanted font) on the logo, probably onpayphones/etc. until BCTel adopted its own unique "modern" logoprobably in the 1990s.Of course all of that GTE presence in Canada (BCTel, QuebecTel, etc)is now part of "Telus", which VeriZon *does* (still) have asignificant, yet now minor share of.Mark J. Cucciamcuccia@tulane.eduNew Orleans LA USA




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